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What do you think of this con man?

 
#1 What do you think of this con man?
15/02/2011 20:23

Anon

Read the link below. Obviously, I do not encourage fraud but there is something about this guy that is admirable: he thinks big!

He lied with the best schools and went for the top job.

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23918945-fraudster-conned-his-way-to-top-bank-job.do

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#2 RE: What do you think of this con man?
16/02/2011 20:00

Curious to Anon (#1)

Was he able to do the job? What prompted the extra check?

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#3 RE: What do you think of this con man?
16/02/2011 20:31

Polish Plumber to Curious (#2)

He seems to be good banker material. I would keep him.

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#4 RE: What do you think of this con man?
16/02/2011 21:54

Mr Caliber to Polish Plumber (#3)

Good Stuff !

Once again, this incident highlights the 'Over Emphasis' corporates put on 'Fancy Degrees'. Degree don't guarantee Success in Professional life ....Bill Gates. Steve Jobs, Dhirubhai Ambani, Larry Ellison, .... the list could even include your name.

Just for the records, I worked with a so called Big IT service provider in their 'Corporate Strategy Department' . I was a top performer there. But the got hit by the recession. Recently I applied to a IT Service company in London and was denied a role soley for marks obtained in my grad degree ...which I completed some 13 years ago ......unbelievable but true incident .....

Needless to say the company I was interviewed was ACN .. lol.... I guess the numerous threads I see of ACN are true.... Lesson learnt...will never apply to ACN again. Who knows they might promote a lazy ar5e from Harvard instead of a Top Performer from a lousy college.

Cheers

Mr Caliber

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#5 RE: What do you think of this con man?
17/02/2011 00:03

Polish Plumber to Mr Caliber (#4)

Me, too, likes to Kapitalize Words Me Considerz to be Important. Me also likez to uze too many full stopz. Me thinks the rezession wasn't the Main Reazon why Mr Kaliber God Sucked and cen't get a djob.

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#6 RE: What do you think of this con man?
17/02/2011 02:55

Mr Caliber to Polish Plumber (#5)

You sure are funny hillybilly.

No wonder UK is still in recession.Many Grammar teachers and 'Singing Glories of the past ' and less substance. Wake up. Globalization is knocking on your door. But why should you care. :-)

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#7 RE: What do you think of this con man?
17/02/2011 05:51

Just a thought... to Mr Caliber (#4)

Maybe the "Big IT service provider" wouldn't have been hit by the recession if its corporate strategy was up to scratch. Maybe the redundancy and ACN rejection have something to do with that.

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#8 RE: What do you think of this con man?
17/02/2011 17:12

Polish Plumber to Mr Caliber (#6)

Mr Caliber, are you an Indian or a Seppo? Perhaps both? Just curious.

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#9 RE: What do you think of this con man?
17/02/2011 18:22

Mr Caliber to Polish Plumber (#8)

Maybe both !

But even then I wouldn't be interested in Polish sister (like you mentioned in your one of your blogs). Please find some other forum to find matches for her.

Lol ! ! ! !

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#10 RE: What do you think of this con man?
21/02/2011 00:30

Marcus to Mr Caliber (#9)

Shame the guy didn't get away with it. Just proves that any idiot from the streets can probably do as good a job of being a senior manager as an egghead with PhDs and MBAs etc.

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#11 RE: What do you think of this con man?
27/04/2011 12:15

profblaumann to Marcus (#10)

@Marcus: what do you mean "do a good job". the guy was hired, and kicked out 4 weeks later. The only thing he did do is being credible in the 3 hiring interviews.....

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#12 RE: What do you think of this con man?
27/04/2011 12:47

Happy to profblaumann (#11)

I find it quite amusing how people continually bring up the same handful of people as examples of not needing a fancy degree to be successful - Steve Jobs, Larry Ellison, Bill Gates - not quite what you'd call a representative sample.

Of course the point they make is correct, but so what, it is entirely missing the bigger point, not least when you consider that this is a consulting board and, as such, is viewed primarily by consultants, not entrepreneurs.

The simple fact is that yes, many many people with lesser or no qualifications could do many many jobs that require the Oxbridge degree and Harvard MBA. But hiring is expensive and time-consuming, so I as a recruiter for a prestigious company will use education as a very simple and consistent screening tool, against which people cannot object on any legal grounds.

Hence the need for the 'life's not fair' rants on anonymous message boards

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#13 RE: What do you think of this con man?
28/04/2011 17:11

recruiter too to Anon (#1)

It is shocking. I remember a really nasty piece of work who complained to my MD after I had the nerve to ring her at 7.00 one evening and ask her all sorts of rude questions after she sent me her CV i.e. “why are you leaving your current job” and “what is your current salary”.

a few years later I saw a 2 page expose in The Mail of her headed “is this the UK’s most brazen Conwoman” . To quote FT.com “she was sacked as managing director of BBC Technology in 2004 for “misuse of hospitality” following an internal investigation. It was later discovered that she was a convicted fraudster. In 1997, she had resigned as head of global electronic commerce at Origin, a subsidiary of the electronics giant Philips, after her criminal record came to light. Even after being ousted from the BBC, she got a job as a senior client partner at the headhunter Korn/Ferry and was made a non-executive director at Datamonitor. In June 2005, less than four months after hiring her, Datamonitor announced she had resigned “for personal reasons.” She also worked for AD Little, Cambridge management Consultants, Towers Perrin: or rather claimed to! One of my clients told me they had made her an offer but withdrew it in a hurry when they made enquiries. I am sure I saw her CV in the last few years so amazingly she is still hawking her services

Anyway the point of the story is that many do eventually get found out. Increasingly employers are being much much more careful with referencing so this is becoming much less common.

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